Title: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on March 11, 2009, 09:44:23 am
Over the past few months we have been informed our building will be refurbished and in addition, there will be a company re-organisation.
I just assumed that each phase, when informed, would pack up, move to a temporary location and once the work was complete, return to our original area.
However just as I am beginning to settle here, I find that is not the case. I asked my boss yesterday if we were moving because some have begun to pack and move while others know they will be moving in due course. His reply was that he could not confirm or deny it and my big worry is that I won't be working for him at all ie. with the company re-org he could be taking on another role.
This is a bit of a shock for me and although now permanent, I still feel like an outsider. I understand his position is delicate and he cannot reveal all of what is going to happen but that just makes me feel he does not trust me.
I was just beginning to accept my surroundings when this happens and I am not sure what to think. To top it all, if I am moved, I will end up in amongst a bunch of secretaries that are extremely clicky and stand-offish.
Like I said, every day something new.
I just assumed that each phase, when informed, would pack up, move to a temporary location and once the work was complete, return to our original area.
However just as I am beginning to settle here, I find that is not the case. I asked my boss yesterday if we were moving because some have begun to pack and move while others know they will be moving in due course. His reply was that he could not confirm or deny it and my big worry is that I won't be working for him at all ie. with the company re-org he could be taking on another role.
This is a bit of a shock for me and although now permanent, I still feel like an outsider. I understand his position is delicate and he cannot reveal all of what is going to happen but that just makes me feel he does not trust me.
I was just beginning to accept my surroundings when this happens and I am not sure what to think. To top it all, if I am moved, I will end up in amongst a bunch of secretaries that are extremely clicky and stand-offish.
Like I said, every day something new.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: JessW on March 11, 2009, 12:38:38 pm
Gee
Don't panic. That is the worst thing you can do.
Is the move round / reshuffle general knowledge? If so, even in part, talk to someone from HR or whoever it was that 'recruited' you in the first place. Tell them that you realise that the full picture is probably sensetive information but as you are new and have not had an easy employment history in recent years you feel concerned for your position and what you will be doing/where you will be moving etc and could they give you some idea how the changes (if any) will affect you - emphasise the need for job security and that you would not divulge anything to anyone, but that you really would like some sort of comfort for peace of mind.
That is what I would do, personally, and most people will understand this.
Hope this helps!
Jess
Don't panic. That is the worst thing you can do.
Is the move round / reshuffle general knowledge? If so, even in part, talk to someone from HR or whoever it was that 'recruited' you in the first place. Tell them that you realise that the full picture is probably sensetive information but as you are new and have not had an easy employment history in recent years you feel concerned for your position and what you will be doing/where you will be moving etc and could they give you some idea how the changes (if any) will affect you - emphasise the need for job security and that you would not divulge anything to anyone, but that you really would like some sort of comfort for peace of mind.
That is what I would do, personally, and most people will understand this.
Hope this helps!
Jess
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on March 11, 2009, 12:45:09 pm
Yes it's a re-org / shuffle happening in my building but having a company-wide impact.
To be honest since I already posed the question to my boss I would hate him to think I was going over his head by asking HR as they could relay that back to him, so I have to be careful.
It's difficult for me as the last time this happened there were a lot of changes which I believe led to my redundancy. I have no idea if it is on the cards again but I have real doubts if he can't tell me if we are moving or not. Surely I need to know eventually in terms of packing, shredding and archiving.
(trying not to panic....1, 2, 3....)
To be honest since I already posed the question to my boss I would hate him to think I was going over his head by asking HR as they could relay that back to him, so I have to be careful.
It's difficult for me as the last time this happened there were a lot of changes which I believe led to my redundancy. I have no idea if it is on the cards again but I have real doubts if he can't tell me if we are moving or not. Surely I need to know eventually in terms of packing, shredding and archiving.
(trying not to panic....1, 2, 3....)
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: Katie G on March 11, 2009, 06:14:17 pm
Gee,
As far as a potential office move is concerned, the best thing to do with the knowledge (or lack thereof) you have is to just make sure you have everything over which you have any control shipshape and ready to go at a moment's notice. Any purging, filing, general cleanup, that sort of thing. I know you've only been in the position a short time, so most of that will probably be from your predecessor(s). Probably good practice anyway. (I had friends in a department who came back from a meeting to find a moving crew waiting at their door! They had no idea! They bargained with the crew to give them two hours to box everything up -- didn't have a chance to go through anything -- just loaded everything in boxes and headed over to their new digs. After hearing that, I decided I should be ready to pick up and go!)
As far as the status of your job, well, I'm sitting here in limbo myself lately and the best piece of advice I've gotten is "stay loose." Which for me, is far easier said than done! In fact, I too am facing the possiblity of being moved to another division that's kind of cliquish too and I'm not relishing that idea -- AT ALL.
I'm trying VERY hard not to fret too much, to just keep doing my job to the best of my ability. On the other hand, my resume is polished and posted on the internet, and I've been quietly networking just putting the word out that I'm "open to new oppoortunities." I don't want to leave, but it may not be my choice, right? The current economic situation has kind of turned everything topsy-turvy (heck, I'm in one of those fields which was supposed to be recession-proof!) which is very disconcerting to people like me (and, I suspect, you, Gee) who like to be informed so we can "plan our work and work our plan".
So, "stay loose". You are a smart, talented, woman with a lot to offer any organization. We may not like where we end up in the short term, but long term, we'll be okay.....
As far as a potential office move is concerned, the best thing to do with the knowledge (or lack thereof) you have is to just make sure you have everything over which you have any control shipshape and ready to go at a moment's notice. Any purging, filing, general cleanup, that sort of thing. I know you've only been in the position a short time, so most of that will probably be from your predecessor(s). Probably good practice anyway. (I had friends in a department who came back from a meeting to find a moving crew waiting at their door! They had no idea! They bargained with the crew to give them two hours to box everything up -- didn't have a chance to go through anything -- just loaded everything in boxes and headed over to their new digs. After hearing that, I decided I should be ready to pick up and go!)
As far as the status of your job, well, I'm sitting here in limbo myself lately and the best piece of advice I've gotten is "stay loose." Which for me, is far easier said than done! In fact, I too am facing the possiblity of being moved to another division that's kind of cliquish too and I'm not relishing that idea -- AT ALL.
I'm trying VERY hard not to fret too much, to just keep doing my job to the best of my ability. On the other hand, my resume is polished and posted on the internet, and I've been quietly networking just putting the word out that I'm "open to new oppoortunities." I don't want to leave, but it may not be my choice, right? The current economic situation has kind of turned everything topsy-turvy (heck, I'm in one of those fields which was supposed to be recession-proof!) which is very disconcerting to people like me (and, I suspect, you, Gee) who like to be informed so we can "plan our work and work our plan".
So, "stay loose". You are a smart, talented, woman with a lot to offer any organization. We may not like where we end up in the short term, but long term, we'll be okay.....
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on March 11, 2009, 08:03:28 pm
Well Did I hope things work out for you in your situation too - it's not easy huh?
I think I was more disappointed with my boss because he wouldn't share any information with me, not because it might mean bad news. I guess I will be informed when I need to know.
I think I was more disappointed with my boss because he wouldn't share any information with me, not because it might mean bad news. I guess I will be informed when I need to know.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: peaches2160 on March 12, 2009, 09:04:26 am
Ah yes, sounds similar to the office re-org underway at our place too. End of the fiscal year always brings changes. However, I am lucky in the respect that my boss and I keep each other informed. He tells me what I "need to know", which is the best way. Sometimes, it's better that way. There are times when he can't tell me right awy, but when he has word that something big is going down, he makes every effort to let me know so I am not blindsided and I do the same. We call it the "rumble in the jungle". Right now, I am waiting for facilities to show up with the moving tubs:) A couple folks have already taken home their personal items, fearing the worst. I don't have that attitude though. Can't worry about things you can't change. Sometimes your mindset can set your destiny. We know we are moving within the building, it is just a matter of when. We are anxious to get the ball rolling though.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: Katie G on March 12, 2009, 03:48:07 pm
"Need to know" seems to be the name of the game everywhere these days. Rumors abound and they change on a moment's notice.
Peaches, I laughed out loud when I read your "rumble in the jungle"! And then there's the flip side out of the old movies where one character (usually at night somewhere outside in the middle of nowhere) says to the other, "It's quiet" and the other guy says, "Too quiet". We've been having some spates of "too quiet" as well as the "rumble in the jungle."
Sigh I've been hitting the chocolate pretty hard lately.....
Peaches, I laughed out loud when I read your "rumble in the jungle"! And then there's the flip side out of the old movies where one character (usually at night somewhere outside in the middle of nowhere) says to the other, "It's quiet" and the other guy says, "Too quiet". We've been having some spates of "too quiet" as well as the "rumble in the jungle."
Sigh I've been hitting the chocolate pretty hard lately.....
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: peaches2160 on March 13, 2009, 01:18:01 am
Ah yes.....Chocolate:) It has been disappearing rapidly at our place too. Alot of covert phone calls, people shutting doors so no one can hear, taling outside on their cell, etc. I just keep my nose down and do my job.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on March 13, 2009, 09:23:56 am
One thing I hate is not being informed of developments eg. coming in dressed for work only to find it's packing up boxes time. Not a good idea when you could have come in dressed to pack!
Some organisation and planning that is.
Thanks heaven's it's Friday - I just want out of here!
Some organisation and planning that is.
Thanks heaven's it's Friday - I just want out of here!
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: itsme_calista on March 13, 2009, 11:48:53 am
Going through it here too :( Lots of good people disappearing from offices around the country.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: Katie G on March 13, 2009, 02:28:23 pm
"Alot of covert phone calls, people shutting doors so no one can hear, taling outside on their cell, etc. "
We have that here too. It's all very "cloak and dagger".
We have that here too. It's all very "cloak and dagger".
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: peaches2160 on March 14, 2009, 02:32:37 am
Not sure where you are located, but our company is really cutting costs to save jobs right now. I appreciate what they are doing. Hopefully it will work.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on March 16, 2009, 10:30:09 am
Bang, bang, bang.....drill, drill, drill.....how on earth can anyone work in that kind of atmosphere?
Surely it has to be a health and safety issue for employees?
Surely it has to be a health and safety issue for employees?
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: itsme_calista on March 16, 2009, 11:30:32 am
Sigh found out today that our office will be relocating, I knew it was on the cards, so not surprised, but where they are relocating too has annoyed me :(
I work half a mile from my house, and the current offices are located next to my son's school, I share a car with hubby although I have it 90% of the time. I made the decision to work so close to home a few years back as I hate travelling through rush hour.
Found out the new offices are 20 - 30 minutes drive away in a smallish village/suburb the other side of town, not on a direct bus route either :( I know this won't be of concern to my bosses but grrr, my hours will have to change, my travel costs will rise, I'll need to find childcare, all at a time where money is tight.
They have done this to appease a client we have in the current building, and of course the new offices are right on their own doorstep.
I know I should be grateful to be in a job right now, however, my work life balance has been something that's very important to me and I've worked so hard at and finally achieved. This will have a big impact on my family :(
On the plus side, a reshuffle means that it's likely I will reporting to 3 Directors in the near future so my workload and job interest should pick up over the next 3 - 6 months.
I work half a mile from my house, and the current offices are located next to my son's school, I share a car with hubby although I have it 90% of the time. I made the decision to work so close to home a few years back as I hate travelling through rush hour.
Found out the new offices are 20 - 30 minutes drive away in a smallish village/suburb the other side of town, not on a direct bus route either :( I know this won't be of concern to my bosses but grrr, my hours will have to change, my travel costs will rise, I'll need to find childcare, all at a time where money is tight.
They have done this to appease a client we have in the current building, and of course the new offices are right on their own doorstep.
I know I should be grateful to be in a job right now, however, my work life balance has been something that's very important to me and I've worked so hard at and finally achieved. This will have a big impact on my family :(
On the plus side, a reshuffle means that it's likely I will reporting to 3 Directors in the near future so my workload and job interest should pick up over the next 3 - 6 months.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on March 16, 2009, 11:39:32 am
Callie I do sympathise especially as you took the role knowing it fitted in with location and hours etc.
Things seem to be rocky all round at the moment.
Things seem to be rocky all round at the moment.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: peaches2160 on March 17, 2009, 02:14:17 am
We must always keep in mind, we work for the company, the company does not work for us and the customer is KING. I know how important work life balance is. Keep your chin up.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on March 17, 2009, 09:11:57 am
Yes Peaches but sometimes we accept positions based on this kind of criteria so it can be difficult when the goalposts are moved somewhat.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: itsme_calista on March 17, 2009, 01:21:22 pm
Whilst "customer is KING" is a very good focus to remember, when customer needs are satisfied to the nth degree and staff needs are left out of the equation I do believe that the company need to be aware of potential impacts.
It's all a bit subjective now anyway as I've been told there is no space for me in the new building and I will be shoehorned into another office (which makes more sense as the other PA's are based there), still means travelling across the town, but it's halfway between here and the new office so less stressful for me and means I won't be so pushed to get childcare.
It's all a bit subjective now anyway as I've been told there is no space for me in the new building and I will be shoehorned into another office (which makes more sense as the other PA's are based there), still means travelling across the town, but it's halfway between here and the new office so less stressful for me and means I won't be so pushed to get childcare.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on March 17, 2009, 01:35:14 pm
Well that is good news Callie.
However I am sitting here today freezing. Whilst work is going on in one third of the building, of course the emergency exit door has been wide open all morning to allow builders and workmen to do their job.
Doesn't a company realise this has a severe impact on the health and safety of employees? I am now getting a stiff neck and shoulders due to the draft and am not really happy that I have been subject to this, not to mention the dust and dirt thrown around by the move and subsequent work.
It just makes me hate the place even more.
However I am sitting here today freezing. Whilst work is going on in one third of the building, of course the emergency exit door has been wide open all morning to allow builders and workmen to do their job.
Doesn't a company realise this has a severe impact on the health and safety of employees? I am now getting a stiff neck and shoulders due to the draft and am not really happy that I have been subject to this, not to mention the dust and dirt thrown around by the move and subsequent work.
It just makes me hate the place even more.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: peaches2160 on March 18, 2009, 12:59:23 am
Ah yes. It does present a challenge. However, there is one constant in life you can always depend on, and that is change. It will all work out. Everything happens for a reason.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on March 24, 2009, 10:23:50 am
Well, this just takes the biscuit.
This morning a member of the quality team has informed my boss that he is moving on Friday, although can't tell him where! My co-worker's boss is on holiday, returning Monday so he has no idea this is happening. It seems my bosses boss is insisting on the move which impacts on the first phase of the office refurb, however without knowing where he is going to be located, my boss is adamant he is not going anywhere.
Then the question arose of myself and the other secretary and where we were being relocated to. Apparently no one knows that either. The point is that each boss who has a secretary will want that secretary with them wherever they move to.
Personally I think it's a mess and without communication no one can do anything. Brace yourself for a further rant if I have to move at short notice!
This morning a member of the quality team has informed my boss that he is moving on Friday, although can't tell him where! My co-worker's boss is on holiday, returning Monday so he has no idea this is happening. It seems my bosses boss is insisting on the move which impacts on the first phase of the office refurb, however without knowing where he is going to be located, my boss is adamant he is not going anywhere.
Then the question arose of myself and the other secretary and where we were being relocated to. Apparently no one knows that either. The point is that each boss who has a secretary will want that secretary with them wherever they move to.
Personally I think it's a mess and without communication no one can do anything. Brace yourself for a further rant if I have to move at short notice!
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: peaches2160 on March 24, 2009, 01:41:21 pm
Same thing went on here:) My bosses boss finally told him we are not moving. Whoosh!
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: Katie G on March 24, 2009, 02:25:06 pm
"The point is that each boss who has a secretary will want that secretary with them wherever they move to."
Ya think? What a radical concept!
(Ok, ok, sarcasm off now....)
Stay loose!
Ya think? What a radical concept!
(Ok, ok, sarcasm off now....)
Stay loose!
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on March 24, 2009, 02:28:31 pm
It was said this morning Did, I overheard it. The set up here wouldn't work if secretaries and managers were in different buildings.
Right now all secretaries are in functional areas with their bosses.
Right now all secretaries are in functional areas with their bosses.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: msmarieh on March 24, 2009, 02:47:36 pm
That is absolutely crazy. How frustrating for all the employees to have such a poorly managed move.
Marie
Peer Moderator
Marie
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Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on March 24, 2009, 02:54:34 pm
Marie, you are so right.
I could have organised it better myself....with tea and buns!
I could have organised it better myself....with tea and buns!
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: geminigirl on March 24, 2009, 04:28:17 pm
I am so looking forward to the next installment of this ... (sitting very snugly and smugly in my own corner office!)
It really amazes me that these hotshot logistical move people can get it so wrong so often with all the tools and know-how (or should that be know-not-how?) at their disposal.
Gee - I really feel for you but goodness grief - what a flippin' carry-on!
It really amazes me that these hotshot logistical move people can get it so wrong so often with all the tools and know-how (or should that be know-not-how?) at their disposal.
Gee - I really feel for you but goodness grief - what a flippin' carry-on!
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on March 24, 2009, 04:31:53 pm
Well....the latest news is, our part of the move (or rather bosses part of the move) is scheduled for next Friday. Still not sure if myself and the other 2 secretaries are moving with our bosses or indeed where we might be relocating to.
It's sure been a fun 6 months so far in this company! lol
It's sure been a fun 6 months so far in this company! lol
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: peaches2160 on March 24, 2009, 04:42:19 pm
So, help me understand, the bosses are moving to another building, and their assistants are staying put? Tell me I have misunderstood.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on March 24, 2009, 04:44:18 pm
Peaches that is the $60m question - no one knows!!
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: Katie G on March 25, 2009, 02:16:45 pm
You can't make this stuff up!!
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on March 25, 2009, 02:18:36 pm
Update Wed 25 March...
Yes apparently we are moving next week to another building where production takes place. That means we are prohibited from eating and drinking at our desks and must take all breaks in the canteen. I am also told no food is allowed in the building so bringing my lunch in every day is a no-no and the company are obliged to provide us with a locker.
I am just so sick of the whole thing and annoyed that we had to find this out from someone who knows little of the matter himself. I mean how can a company of 500 people be expected to take a half hour lunch which includes queuing in the canteen along with everyone else?
I am in two minds whether to contact the employment agency who placed me here in order to find something else.
PS. Did... I am hoping I will awake from some terrible nightmare and find I have won the lottery!
Yes apparently we are moving next week to another building where production takes place. That means we are prohibited from eating and drinking at our desks and must take all breaks in the canteen. I am also told no food is allowed in the building so bringing my lunch in every day is a no-no and the company are obliged to provide us with a locker.
I am just so sick of the whole thing and annoyed that we had to find this out from someone who knows little of the matter himself. I mean how can a company of 500 people be expected to take a half hour lunch which includes queuing in the canteen along with everyone else?
I am in two minds whether to contact the employment agency who placed me here in order to find something else.
PS. Did... I am hoping I will awake from some terrible nightmare and find I have won the lottery!
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on March 27, 2009, 05:58:20 pm
I spoke to my boss today about next week's move as he has been out of the office a bit this week and we never got the chance to speak about it.
He informs me that it is not 100% confirmed as he and the other managers are not happy about where they are going.
He has also told me that either myself or my co-worker will move but probably not both of us. So for the moment one may have to reman to support the others that still reside in the building. That means not only shall I be on my own with my boss and 2 or 3 other managers, but I shall have to take all breaks on my own as no food is allowed at our desks or indeed that particular building...
He informs me that it is not 100% confirmed as he and the other managers are not happy about where they are going.
He has also told me that either myself or my co-worker will move but probably not both of us. So for the moment one may have to reman to support the others that still reside in the building. That means not only shall I be on my own with my boss and 2 or 3 other managers, but I shall have to take all breaks on my own as no food is allowed at our desks or indeed that particular building...
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: adminforyou on March 27, 2009, 07:53:34 pm
That might give you the chance to meet new people and find someone that will be helpful, friendly, nice, etc. so you will have someone to speak with at lunch and breaks! Look at the bright side (easy to say ...)
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: peaches2160 on March 28, 2009, 01:49:49 am
Yeh, think of it as an adventure and an opportunity to meet some new people. Might not be so bad.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on March 29, 2009, 12:14:04 pm
Well given the females are already very clicky I can live without them. It suited me to have lunch at my desk but I'm sure as heck not sitting in the canteen on my own. It's the worst place I think I have ever worked.
I know I will draw the short straw this week and move with my boss and other managers - it's just my luck!
I know I will draw the short straw this week and move with my boss and other managers - it's just my luck!
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: peaches2160 on March 30, 2009, 01:39:52 am
Think positive. Hopefully it will all turn out in your favor, especially if the others are so clicky where you are now. An adventure awaits........:)
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on March 30, 2009, 09:31:14 am
It's the females who are clicky in the building that I am going to that is the problem......where I am now is fine as I can eat at my desk and don't have to rely on others for breaks.
It seems every 6 months my life is destined to change and not stay the same for any length of time - very unsettling.
If the agency who placed me here had been allowed on site to vet the company, I probably wouldn't have had all this uncertainty and would have had a better insight as regards the set up and environment.
It seems every 6 months my life is destined to change and not stay the same for any length of time - very unsettling.
If the agency who placed me here had been allowed on site to vet the company, I probably wouldn't have had all this uncertainty and would have had a better insight as regards the set up and environment.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on March 30, 2009, 01:03:05 pm
We had a briefing on our move this morning although bossies were not happy that some of their teams, who have deliverables and deadlines, may be disrupted and moved again.
An inventory of what myself and my co-worker need to take with us eg. fax machine, printers, scanners, stationery cupboards etc has yet to be carried out, but it seems we all move on Friday.
An inventory of what myself and my co-worker need to take with us eg. fax machine, printers, scanners, stationery cupboards etc has yet to be carried out, but it seems we all move on Friday.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on April 01, 2009, 02:02:30 pm
...and they call it April Fool's Day!
Not sure any of you are still reading this, it's like my daily blog. Anyway still scheduled to pack up and move on Friday but no exact location determined as yet. Most of us have lost the plot now and don't really care. I am just trying to stay sane...
Not sure any of you are still reading this, it's like my daily blog. Anyway still scheduled to pack up and move on Friday but no exact location determined as yet. Most of us have lost the plot now and don't really care. I am just trying to stay sane...
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: JessW on April 01, 2009, 02:13:18 pm
Gee
I am still reading - only partly because we both know that, bosses being bosses, they will give you half an hour to sort everything out, pack it all up and get moving! (LOL at the futility of it all!)
Keeping my fingers crossed!
Jess
I am still reading - only partly because we both know that, bosses being bosses, they will give you half an hour to sort everything out, pack it all up and get moving! (LOL at the futility of it all!)
Keeping my fingers crossed!
Jess
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on April 01, 2009, 02:19:50 pm
Well we are supposed to get crates on Friday to pack stuff from our desks and general files we need access to at the last minute. Other boxes we have been given are for documents to go into secure storage as well as bins for general and confidential waste.
I can't do anything for my boss eg. pack or discard, as I haven't a clue if it's confidential or waste - so he's on his own with that and has probably decided already that he will bin a lot of stuff.
I just wish it was all over. I've already gone through this in my last job (ironic that it was Apr 07) and moved house in the past year!
A large crate of wine might be needed at the weekend. I might even put a bet on the National!
I can't do anything for my boss eg. pack or discard, as I haven't a clue if it's confidential or waste - so he's on his own with that and has probably decided already that he will bin a lot of stuff.
I just wish it was all over. I've already gone through this in my last job (ironic that it was Apr 07) and moved house in the past year!
A large crate of wine might be needed at the weekend. I might even put a bet on the National!
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: peaches2160 on April 01, 2009, 11:20:20 pm
Gee - one thing we can always depend on in life is CHANGE:) Keep smiling. It's an adventure.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on April 02, 2009, 08:06:44 am
I know but I've hit that age Peaches where I just want things to settle down - been through enough in the past couple of years in my personal life so I need some kind of calm. Work is a means of survival for me at the minute and nothing else.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: geminigirl on April 02, 2009, 02:28:49 pm
I'm definitely still reading this one. I really feel for you and cannot believe how badly organised all this moving is. And they expect to run a grown-up company this way? P-ups & breweries spring to mind.
Keep sane and keep smiling, Gee - hopefully light at the end of the tunnel. But I can quite understand how much you want things to settle down. You've been on such a roller coaster these last couple of years - and no-one can sustain that much tension and / or uncertaintly without it having some kind of effect.
We'll all, I'm sure, be looking forward to your "blog" on Monday to let us know how it all went - and if you're still standing! They say that what doeesn't kill you makes you stronger but sometimes I know that I'd rather they just shoot me now and get it over and done with. I've had the same kind of situation in previous positions and know that I am simply blessed to work where I do now, and with the boss I currently have - she's a sweetheart!
Keep sane and keep smiling, Gee - hopefully light at the end of the tunnel. But I can quite understand how much you want things to settle down. You've been on such a roller coaster these last couple of years - and no-one can sustain that much tension and / or uncertaintly without it having some kind of effect.
We'll all, I'm sure, be looking forward to your "blog" on Monday to let us know how it all went - and if you're still standing! They say that what doeesn't kill you makes you stronger but sometimes I know that I'd rather they just shoot me now and get it over and done with. I've had the same kind of situation in previous positions and know that I am simply blessed to work where I do now, and with the boss I currently have - she's a sweetheart!
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on April 02, 2009, 02:47:09 pm
Well the latest 'rumour' that is going round is that the working group assigned to manage all of this has been pulled - my understanding is enough has been spent already!
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: rose.winter1980 on April 02, 2009, 03:57:32 pm
I've moved offices twice in my career - once into a brand new building. That was great because I managed to get a desk near the only window in a shared office. Wicked.
The second time was a little more problematic. I hadn't been in post very long when we upped sticks and moved across town, again to a brand new building. What made it quite difficult was that we had decades (and I do mean DECADES) of papers to sort through, very little storage space at the other end, and Bossie went on holiday whilst all this was going on. I was rather cross, as you may imagine. So, I used that opportunity to give our files a very "short-back-and-sides" haircut and arranged Bossie's office how I wanted it to be and installed myself in a very nice, but small, corner office with lots of windows and a little balcony and a Japanese garden outside. Heaven.
Winter Rose
Laugh long, sing loud and dance when you get the chance
The second time was a little more problematic. I hadn't been in post very long when we upped sticks and moved across town, again to a brand new building. What made it quite difficult was that we had decades (and I do mean DECADES) of papers to sort through, very little storage space at the other end, and Bossie went on holiday whilst all this was going on. I was rather cross, as you may imagine. So, I used that opportunity to give our files a very "short-back-and-sides" haircut and arranged Bossie's office how I wanted it to be and installed myself in a very nice, but small, corner office with lots of windows and a little balcony and a Japanese garden outside. Heaven.
Winter Rose
Laugh long, sing loud and dance when you get the chance
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on April 07, 2009, 12:14:34 pm
When you are told relocation to another building is on the cards and you have to pack up and move, you should be given special clothing.
I came in today wearing jeans and a nice shirt thinking at least I would still be smartly dressed for work. However the dye from the yellow boxes we have been supplied with has rubbed off onto my clothes and I am not a very happy easter bunny.
At this rate I will be coming to work in scruffy clothes from now on as the building we are due to move to (tomorrow or Thur) is not ideal for smart clothing.
I came in today wearing jeans and a nice shirt thinking at least I would still be smartly dressed for work. However the dye from the yellow boxes we have been supplied with has rubbed off onto my clothes and I am not a very happy easter bunny.
At this rate I will be coming to work in scruffy clothes from now on as the building we are due to move to (tomorrow or Thur) is not ideal for smart clothing.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: Katie G on April 07, 2009, 02:05:52 pm
I've been through two office moves. After the first, I learned the hard way that OLD jeans (not the ones you wear on a date), and OLD T-shirt (and not your prized concert t-shirt), and OLD sneakers (for traction) are the order of the day. Honestly, you've about as much chance of looking "smart" after an office move as you would after a day making mudpies.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on April 07, 2009, 02:10:35 pm
I know but we never know from one day to the next if we are packing or moving or neither.
A plan of action might have been a good idea - oh no, there was a plan of action....d'oh!
A plan of action might have been a good idea - oh no, there was a plan of action....d'oh!
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: adminforyou on April 08, 2009, 03:54:02 am
Take an "old, yukky looking outfit" (include your old tract shoes too) to work and change into it - that way you will not ruin your not so old clothes that you wore to work!
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on April 20, 2009, 02:26:17 pm
Well back to work and still no further on with our relocation, although in order to start the next phase of work, we will definitely have to move before the end of this week I am sure.
It just bothers me that I seem to get ignored when it comes to receiving updates. I mean I am part of this move too so it would be helpful for the organisers to have the manners and include me, not ignore me.
It just bothers me that I seem to get ignored when it comes to receiving updates. I mean I am part of this move too so it would be helpful for the organisers to have the manners and include me, not ignore me.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on April 21, 2009, 03:04:45 pm
Scheduled move is Friday...
Can you believe the staff who are due to move into the refurbished phase 1 are being taken off site for 2 days next week and then the following day they relocate.
Can you believe the staff who are due to move into the refurbished phase 1 are being taken off site for 2 days next week and then the following day they relocate.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: rose.winter1980 on April 22, 2009, 02:42:05 pm
Gee,
I think it is high time this office move/reshuffle had its own blogspot. LOL.
I wish you well. Moving offices, no matter how well-planned, is a nightmare.
Rose
Winter Rose
Laugh long, sing loud and dance when you get the chance
I think it is high time this office move/reshuffle had its own blogspot. LOL.
I wish you well. Moving offices, no matter how well-planned, is a nightmare.
Rose
Winter Rose
Laugh long, sing loud and dance when you get the chance
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on April 22, 2009, 02:44:48 pm
Oh I know. I have no idea how I have kept it all together. I'm afraid to post any more updates in case DD block further postings!
The worst thing is, the archiving of material was not properly briefed to staff. Therefore one person at one end of the building has labelled their boxes 1-5 and someone else at the other end has labelled theirs 1-5. If only the secretaries has been briefed of the process in advance, we could have sent out an email advising teams how to identify and label their boxes. But I guess that was just too logical and of course as a result, we have had to redo work that could have been avoided.
The worst thing is, the archiving of material was not properly briefed to staff. Therefore one person at one end of the building has labelled their boxes 1-5 and someone else at the other end has labelled theirs 1-5. If only the secretaries has been briefed of the process in advance, we could have sent out an email advising teams how to identify and label their boxes. But I guess that was just too logical and of course as a result, we have had to redo work that could have been avoided.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on April 23, 2009, 09:28:35 am
Not sure whether to laugh or cry....
The database where manifest info is being recorded can only accept a certain numbering format. So whilst an email has gone out informing staff of the "suggested unique numbering format" to label boxes for archiving, it seems the database cannot handle that format.
I wonder if I left now would anyone notice I had gone...??
The database where manifest info is being recorded can only accept a certain numbering format. So whilst an email has gone out informing staff of the "suggested unique numbering format" to label boxes for archiving, it seems the database cannot handle that format.
I wonder if I left now would anyone notice I had gone...??
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: Dusty * on April 23, 2009, 10:26:29 am
gee, what a saga!
Having relocated to different sites within my company four times, I've never experienced anything like you.
Wishing you all the best for the move tomorrow.
Having relocated to different sites within my company four times, I've never experienced anything like you.
Wishing you all the best for the move tomorrow.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: peaches2160 on April 24, 2009, 01:13:35 am
Gee - sounds like you should have been put in charge of the facilities team spearing this move. It's a challenge you are dealing with. Keep our chin up. This too shall pass. Try to find the humor in it all.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on April 24, 2009, 09:57:36 am
I'm doing my best...
At least I am packed, boxed up and labelled. My colleague on the other hand has swanned off, god knows where, while I have been busy since I got here this morning. She does it most days but cannot believe she still has to pack everything up before noon today.
...At least I am packed, boxed up and labelled. My colleague on the other hand has swanned off, god knows where, while I have been busy since I got here this morning. She does it most days but cannot believe she still has to pack everything up before noon today.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: peaches2160 on April 25, 2009, 02:42:15 am
Ahh, Monday is another day. Hope all goes well.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on April 27, 2009, 12:08:17 pm
Well, we are moved. A few slights issues, but all in all it's done.
The purse however is lighter this morning as we had to have our tea-break in the canteen, so not happy about that. I did have a scone but only to cheer myself up...will have to try and knock that on the head!
My colleague is not as settled as me this morning but mainly because her workstation has to accommodate more hardware than me. We did have some staff asking for things this morning - you would have thought they would have left us alone for an hour or two whilst we got unpacked - just nosy I guess.
Anyway here's to a short week as I am off on Friday for a long weekend.
The purse however is lighter this morning as we had to have our tea-break in the canteen, so not happy about that. I did have a scone but only to cheer myself up...will have to try and knock that on the head!
My colleague is not as settled as me this morning but mainly because her workstation has to accommodate more hardware than me. We did have some staff asking for things this morning - you would have thought they would have left us alone for an hour or two whilst we got unpacked - just nosy I guess.
Anyway here's to a short week as I am off on Friday for a long weekend.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: officepa on May 04, 2009, 09:17:04 pm
Gee, hope you are now settling in. Haven't been able to post on DD for sometime but have been following your progress.
You have certainly been through it with this company - looking on the bright side, you seem to be the sort of person who copes with whatever thrown your way to your advantage.
Keep posting - makes good reading.
Best wishes.
You have certainly been through it with this company - looking on the bright side, you seem to be the sort of person who copes with whatever thrown your way to your advantage.
Keep posting - makes good reading.
Best wishes.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on May 05, 2009, 09:19:37 am
It's actually quite funny...
I have found it ok whilst the others are struggling. I put that down to the fact I have temped, been made redundant and therefore moved about more than say someone who has been with this company 20 years.
I found out last week on the days my boss has not been travelling, he has been going back to his previous location, making a cuppa and having his lunch at the desk of someone who is out on sick leave. Not only did I laugh as I found it quite pathetic, but I was annoyed he would eat his lunch at someone else's desk especially when he no longer resides in that building!
I have found it ok whilst the others are struggling. I put that down to the fact I have temped, been made redundant and therefore moved about more than say someone who has been with this company 20 years.
I found out last week on the days my boss has not been travelling, he has been going back to his previous location, making a cuppa and having his lunch at the desk of someone who is out on sick leave. Not only did I laugh as I found it quite pathetic, but I was annoyed he would eat his lunch at someone else's desk especially when he no longer resides in that building!
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on May 19, 2009, 02:22:11 pm
I thought moving and carrying boxes for archiving and storing was over, but no. For the second time I have ruined another outfit which is now also covered in yellow dye.
I'm losing the will to live...........Get Me Outta Here!!!
I'm losing the will to live...........Get Me Outta Here!!!
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: Jackie G on May 19, 2009, 09:26:28 pm
Company insurance, Gee!
Jackie, Peer Moderator
Jackie, Peer Moderator
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on May 20, 2009, 08:17:52 am
Jackie,
If I can't get a cold air vent shut off, what are the chances of costs being recovered for damage to my clothes?
It's like anything else, you are only a number, and in my case an insignificant one.
If I can't get a cold air vent shut off, what are the chances of costs being recovered for damage to my clothes?
It's like anything else, you are only a number, and in my case an insignificant one.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: Jackie G on May 20, 2009, 12:41:40 pm
Gee
You seem to have your boss in your corner now.
If you were asked to take part in something without notice, requiring you to still wear good office clothing and it was ruined, I would definitely ask your boss about the feasibility of claiming against the company's public liability.
And if he has gone off the boil, then I would take it up with HR and not let it rest until you get an answer why you can't claim. They couldn't provide you overalls to protect your clothes?
Jackie, Peer Moderator
You seem to have your boss in your corner now.
If you were asked to take part in something without notice, requiring you to still wear good office clothing and it was ruined, I would definitely ask your boss about the feasibility of claiming against the company's public liability.
And if he has gone off the boil, then I would take it up with HR and not let it rest until you get an answer why you can't claim. They couldn't provide you overalls to protect your clothes?
Jackie, Peer Moderator
Edited by jackie on 20/05/09 12:42 PM.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on May 20, 2009, 01:13:12 pm
Everyone seems to have a grey coat but when I started (even after I got made permanent) it didn't seem forthcoming. Still now no one has mentioned it.
I washed said garments last night and the dye came out thankfully.
As regards my boss, now that we have screens installed at the end of our cube, he had the cheek to ask yesterday, "if everything was sorted". I think this place prefers to sweep everything under the carpet, whoops, factory floor! They don't seem to want to address issues.
I washed said garments last night and the dye came out thankfully.
As regards my boss, now that we have screens installed at the end of our cube, he had the cheek to ask yesterday, "if everything was sorted". I think this place prefers to sweep everything under the carpet, whoops, factory floor! They don't seem to want to address issues.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: rose.winter1980 on May 20, 2009, 01:18:36 pm
Gee,
I'm sorry for your troubles. It sounds such a lot of hassle - poor you.
When I worked in a company years ago and we moved buildings, my boss went on holiday for three weeks. I know it couldn't be helped because she was dependent to a certain extent on her husband. But I wasn't happy because I had to sort and pack up over 50 years worth of documents. I gave her a severe look and said that I would, then, arrange the office to my own taste.
She brought me back, from her holiday, a splendid present. And she's still alive. Somewhere. Hehehe.
Winter Rose
Laugh long, sing loud and dance when you get the chance
I'm sorry for your troubles. It sounds such a lot of hassle - poor you.
When I worked in a company years ago and we moved buildings, my boss went on holiday for three weeks. I know it couldn't be helped because she was dependent to a certain extent on her husband. But I wasn't happy because I had to sort and pack up over 50 years worth of documents. I gave her a severe look and said that I would, then, arrange the office to my own taste.
She brought me back, from her holiday, a splendid present. And she's still alive. Somewhere. Hehehe.
Winter Rose
Laugh long, sing loud and dance when you get the chance
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: Jackie G on May 21, 2009, 09:22:27 am
Gee
I think you have to ensure you get a grey coat (I presume this is some kind of coverall) before you ever do anything like this again or refuse to do it until you have a chance to go home and change into old clothes.
As for your boss, time to go past him and deal with the nurse or HR or some kind of H&S person on site. If they won't listen, talk to the HSE for advice and see what they can do. There are laws and it sounds like they might possibly be breaking them, or close to it. While it's hard to be a whistleblower, if you're not planning to stay in the long term, sort it for the time you are there. (Workplace, Health, Safety and Welfare) Regs is what I think I'm thinking of - where employers have to provide a safe working environment. There is also something about - I can't remember the names - Provision and Work Equipment Regulations (PUWER) where employers have to provide the correct equipment (this includes protective stuff) for employees.
From what you've said there are breaches there and you would have a case.
If you ended up with a permanent stiff neck as a result of sitting in a draught, then there are other things there.
In fact, stuff the nurse and H&S folk, go and get some legal advice!
Jackie, Peer Moderator
I think you have to ensure you get a grey coat (I presume this is some kind of coverall) before you ever do anything like this again or refuse to do it until you have a chance to go home and change into old clothes.
As for your boss, time to go past him and deal with the nurse or HR or some kind of H&S person on site. If they won't listen, talk to the HSE for advice and see what they can do. There are laws and it sounds like they might possibly be breaking them, or close to it. While it's hard to be a whistleblower, if you're not planning to stay in the long term, sort it for the time you are there. (Workplace, Health, Safety and Welfare) Regs is what I think I'm thinking of - where employers have to provide a safe working environment. There is also something about - I can't remember the names - Provision and Work Equipment Regulations (PUWER) where employers have to provide the correct equipment (this includes protective stuff) for employees.
From what you've said there are breaches there and you would have a case.
If you ended up with a permanent stiff neck as a result of sitting in a draught, then there are other things there.
In fact, stuff the nurse and H&S folk, go and get some legal advice!
Jackie, Peer Moderator
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on May 21, 2009, 09:31:43 am
Jackie, thanks for your advice. My next step will be to go down the legal route. While most of this week has been extremely warm, (temperature wise), this morning is back to what it was before, so the screens haven't made any difference.
I spoke with the nurse on Monday morning who actually came to see me last week when I was off. She informed me that she sat at my desk to experience the cold air conditions. I told her that if matters did not improve, and I was ill again, I would take this further.
I am so fed up of hearing, oh facilities are hard to nail down, it's because the buildings are purpose-built as factories, not offices. Then my advice is house staff in the proper buildings away from shop floor workers and take on board my complaint.
I tell you, last week I was very close to submitting a doctor's line for a couple of weeks. I won't rule it out yet.
I spoke with the nurse on Monday morning who actually came to see me last week when I was off. She informed me that she sat at my desk to experience the cold air conditions. I told her that if matters did not improve, and I was ill again, I would take this further.
I am so fed up of hearing, oh facilities are hard to nail down, it's because the buildings are purpose-built as factories, not offices. Then my advice is house staff in the proper buildings away from shop floor workers and take on board my complaint.
I tell you, last week I was very close to submitting a doctor's line for a couple of weeks. I won't rule it out yet.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: rose.winter1980 on May 21, 2009, 10:38:41 am
That's no excuse, Gee. I have worked on a building site in the past when my eventual workplace was in the process of being built. We worked in a portacabin and those facilities can get might cold in the winter and mighty hot in the summer. So we dealt with the problem.
In another place I worked many years ago, the cold was indescribable and I became very ill indeed (falling off my chair at work and being confined to bed for several weeks type of ill). My doctor wrote a stiff letter to my employers about the lack of heating.
No modern company in a civilized country has any excuse for treating its workers without consideration.
Winter Rose
Laugh long, sing loud and dance when you get the chance
In another place I worked many years ago, the cold was indescribable and I became very ill indeed (falling off my chair at work and being confined to bed for several weeks type of ill). My doctor wrote a stiff letter to my employers about the lack of heating.
No modern company in a civilized country has any excuse for treating its workers without consideration.
Winter Rose
Laugh long, sing loud and dance when you get the chance
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on May 21, 2009, 11:00:25 am
I don't know what else to do. I have raised it with my boss, the nurse and Facilities. They all know the problem exists but as I said the temperature conditions have to be in keeping with equipment and material.
I bumped into the nurse this morning in the canteen and when she asked me how things were, I told her things were just the same eg. cold.
When co-workers actually stand at my desk they notice it too and realise what I am suffering.
Short of handing in a sick line or worse, becoming unfit to get to work, I have no idea what else to do.
I'm not the kind of person to be off sick unless I cannot get out of bed but maybe that's what it will take.
I bumped into the nurse this morning in the canteen and when she asked me how things were, I told her things were just the same eg. cold.
When co-workers actually stand at my desk they notice it too and realise what I am suffering.
Short of handing in a sick line or worse, becoming unfit to get to work, I have no idea what else to do.
I'm not the kind of person to be off sick unless I cannot get out of bed but maybe that's what it will take.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: duque on May 22, 2009, 08:32:55 am
Hi everybody ... been out of touch for a long time.
Gee, I gather your co-workers do not have your same problem. Is there any way you can move your desk out of the draft while you are waiting for bossies etc., to buck up?
Gee, I gather your co-workers do not have your same problem. Is there any way you can move your desk out of the draft while you are waiting for bossies etc., to buck up?
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on May 22, 2009, 08:38:08 am
Oh believe me they do, but complain in different ways. My colleague and co-worker is never at her desk, I have no idea where she goes or what she does.
She has mentioned she feels the cold but is never at her desk long enough to suffer it all day.
Because we moved to a totally different environment, those are the conditions. I guess everyone else puts up with it cos it's a job.
She has mentioned she feels the cold but is never at her desk long enough to suffer it all day.
Because we moved to a totally different environment, those are the conditions. I guess everyone else puts up with it cos it's a job.
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: officepa on June 25, 2009, 01:42:57 pm
Gee - have followed your postings on this matter - interesting reading. It's amazing what some companies will allow their staff to have to put up with.
How are things now?
How are things now?
Title: Re: Office Move / Reshuffle
Post by: gee4 on June 25, 2009, 04:50:31 pm
With the recent increase in temperatures outside, the aircon in work was very welcome, however given my complaints fell on deaf ears and everyone thinks things are ok again, I will bide my time and wait. This matter is definitely not over. I refuse to spend the autumn/winter in freezing temperature conditions.
Luckily I'm off for a few days this week and next so I'm not missing the place at all!
The thing is the buildings are not purpose-built to be used as offices but I guess that was not thought of in years gone by. When someone new like me comes in, it is only then that things are noticed and raised.
Luckily I'm off for a few days this week and next so I'm not missing the place at all!
The thing is the buildings are not purpose-built to be used as offices but I guess that was not thought of in years gone by. When someone new like me comes in, it is only then that things are noticed and raised.